Welcome to the board!
Well recently me and my son decided to join the scouts. I have recently left the org though not disassociated. At the start of scouts meeting the kids stand in a circle and the flag is raised. Also there was a new scout making his pledge, and indeed he had to pledge to serve God and the Queen and country.
My son is 11 and raised a JW asked me after if it was ok. I said it was now because we are no longer following JW rules, just our own consciences.(All that pledging and flag saluting is an absolute no no in JW land!) We discussed it and will proceed as we see fit.
It would be virtually impossible for us to be part of the scout movement, if we were still JWs. Also I feel it would be unfair to the other children for us not to fully participate and support the group. The scouts do a lot of good for kids and for charity.
So really, the two do not mix ..You're friend will have to stop being involved with the guides or the JW or be under a lot of pressure and stress if she tries to do both.
xxx Strawberry Cake.
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JW policy on Girl Guides and Scouts?
by HB ini have come to this forum on the recommendation of an ex jehovah's witness who has been very helpful.
although he has given me some useful information, he suggested i post my question on here too to see what others have to say.
being new, i am not sure if i have chosen the right topic heading but if not forgive me!.
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I have been Labeled
by The Doc 58 init has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth.
my cousin emailed me and said that he heard i was an apostate.
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I said to my dad, who has never been a JW that the congregation will consider me an Apostate now that I have disagreed and left. My dad said " So what!"
Of course he doesn't understand...but his simple reply made me feel better.
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YOUR DAILY JOURNAL
by compound complex indear friends,.
much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.
however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.
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Right now I'm sitting in the kitchen planning my weekend activities with my youngest 11 year old son.
I have been trying real hard to keep him active as he has to form new friendships now. We have also decided to join the scouts....me as a parent helper. We love to hike and camp and this I believe will provide us with new friends. We have also joined the angling club and the ramblers.
The memorials coming and yesterday, my middle son(still in org), who is 16 and difficult, asked me if I was going to the memorial. I said no. He asked if I would be doing it somewhere else, because the bible says we should do this. I told him that he wouldn't be taking it either, so whats the problem. He said we should observe it . I said, where does it say that? The conversation was unpleasant in its tone and my son was being argumentative. He is angry and confused. He was angry and confused when I was in...so no change.
He doesnt listen and is very rude. I've noticed that being a JW doesnt mean you actually have to be spiritual..Because he decidedly is not.Just sticking to rules and routine.
Anyway..I've been listening to a really good gospel singer called Coffey Anderson on GodTube and a disabled preacher called Nick Nujicic. I feel spiritual uplifted by them.
I read my bible, mainly the sermon on the mount, as at the moment,I can't cope with anything too controversial.
Apart from my loving husband and oldest son(my oldest son aged 20 is still in,he is very understanding and sweet about everything),I have a really good friend that I am close to, who is a very spiritual lady. We talk often.My large non JW family have phoned to cheer me up and to invite me over.. So all the girlfriends that are shunning me is no real loss...because they can't have been real friends. Indeed they are stuck in an artificial environment.
So I am deprogramming. I know I have issues from 13 years of association. I am leaning on God.( I hardly can say Jehovah Now) Jesus is my friend...and life is a gift.
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My life growing up as a witness...
by RFlores ini have just spent the last 4 hours reading many various posts and finally built up the courage to register and share my experiences.
i am only 20 years old, but my young age should not overlook my intelligence as an observing individual.
i was born into the religion of the jehova's witnesses.
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Welcome R. Flores
I am new here and also have just left the Organization with my husband and youngest son. I have a son who is 20 and one that is 16 still in the organization. I am hoping that in time they will pull away and realize that they can still serve Jehovah without this corrupt organization. It gives me hope when I see the way you wised up. I hope my sons will, soon, before JW girlfriends and wives complicate matters.
You will get such a lot of support here. Its so helpful to have others see what you see. The falseness of the WTS.
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Family shunning
by LunaFing inthis is my first time in a discussion forum.
i'm an ex-jw who hasn't "officialy" left the religion because i'm afraid my family will shun me.
i've been "inactive" for 10 years.
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Who would think that this seemingly innocent organization could be so evil. To tear apart families the way it does and in the name of God.
I hope your mum is making empty threats and ultimately will not follow through.
I am now , recently started experiencing this spiteful shunning from 'friends'in the org, because I openly said I don't agree with the WTS.This is what happens when you are honest with them.
It seems we have to play a strategic game...One elder(off the record) said to me, I should not have said I don't believe. I should have said I don't understand, that would have kept them from shunning me. He was telling me to bend the truth.
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Did you see Jones town last night ?
by mouthy init was horrible.
i had seen before a documentry about it.
also i had read the book.
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We saw this here in the uk not long ago. It cemented to me how dangerous blind obedience is. Also, how perfectly intelligent people can be fooled and mesmerized. I can see how I was indeed fooled and mesmerized by the WTS.
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Local Needs.
by strawberry cake inthis week, my husband and myself were the subject of local needs.
our older children were there...we stayed away.
reported by my sons... it started thus.."do not leave the organization!
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Thank you all for being here for us. xxx Strawberry Cake
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Local Needs.
by strawberry cake inthis week, my husband and myself were the subject of local needs.
our older children were there...we stayed away.
reported by my sons... it started thus.."do not leave the organization!
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Is this elder so stupid that he can't see there's no difference? The end result is the same - no communication with the JWs. W I think the borg has turned them stupid. xxx SC
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Local Needs.
by strawberry cake inthis week, my husband and myself were the subject of local needs.
our older children were there...we stayed away.
reported by my sons... it started thus.."do not leave the organization!
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This week, My husband and myself were the subject of local needs.
Our older children were there...We stayed away.
Reported by my sons... It started thus.."Do not leave the organization!"Then the elder explained how some in the congregation have decided to leave and have been sending messages by text and phone to inform congregation members of their decision.( I had said goodbye and explained my absence to a some friends)The elder warned them not to phone us to encourage us as they would be putting themselves in danger. Also he said these ones will have been visiting apostate sites and reading apostate literature.(oops!)He lied and said that he had listened to what we had to say and it had no substance.( a guess he has to discredit us as he could not give us sufficient answers )He then stressed that we are bad association.( The day before, we were also warned by another elder to stay away from the brothers and sisters or else he would not be able to stop us being DF for Apostacy.) He ended his item with "Do not leave the organization!" again.
Non of my loyalest friends have called to report...I wonder what's up..???The power of the borg!has taken them over...
I have my husband, my non JW, loving family.My children accept our decision.
I am grateful.What about others who whole family life is WT?
xxx Strawberry Cake